Interview
by Todd Simmons
- IFQ Cannes Edition 2011
Nick Taylor has a new film, Paradise East,
which is getting attention at festivals around the world.
IFQ:
Tell us about your film.
NT: Its
set in Jersey and deals with issues of the lower working class.
IFQ: I saw the film. I think theres
a little more to it than that.
NT: Well,
without giving the plot away, lets say it deals with dysfunctional
families struggling to survive in an environment of hate and guilt.
IFQ:
Better. Ill say this; Ive never seen juicier characters. Ill
bet your actors had a ball.
NT: Actually,
they hated working with me but endured because the parts were irresistible.
IFQ: I couldnt
stop laughing, yet some of it was so dark. I could feel the air being
sucked from the theater. Does that mean you were an unhappy child who
enjoyed laughing?
NT: Probably.
IFQ: And women?
NT: Probably.
IFQ: Your movie
is very erotic, but tasteful. Im not sure I can say that about your
previous film.
NT: The clown film? You saw it?
IFQ: Yes.
NT: You
and twelve others.
IFQ: I liked it, but Paradise East
is a different kind of movie.
NT: Yeah,
more for kids.
IFQ: Right. Your cast is terrific and probably
as obscure as you are.
NT: Yeah,
nobody knows who we are, but maybe thats a good thing.
IFQ:
I suspect thats about to change.
NT: Well
see.
IFQ: Your themes
are very religious, both in Paradise East and A Clown in Babylon.
NT: My mother was a Quaker.
IFQ: Right. Im told youll do
as many as twenty takes.
NT: If
need be. We move on when its right.
IFQ: Any instances where you werent
satisfied with a scene?
NT: Probably
not. On occasion Id leave a scene then revisit when my actors were
less stoned on glue.
IFQ:
You have an interesting way with words.
NT: My
mother was a Quaker.
IFQ:
Is it true youre a Freemason?
NT: Third
generation.
IFQ: Is it
true you guys are bent on world domination?
NT: No comment.
IFQ: Back to Paradise East. You have
quite a few four-letter words in the picture. I lost count at 515.
NT: Yeah,
my players are all deviants. I wrote very few of those bad words.
IFQ: Right.
NT: Serious.
IFQ: And the nudity?
NT: All
scripted. And I dont think overdone.
IFQ: Not at all. And I love the split-screen.
NT: Thanks.
IFQ: And the jumpy camera.
NT: Thanks.
IFQ:
Who are your influences?
NT: Actors: Bill Frawley, Bill Demarest,
Brando, The Stooges. Directors: Woody Allen, Alan Parker, Hitchcock, David
Lynch.
IFQ:
All great and I love your score.
NT: Thanks.
I had lots of ideas. Then, in post, we refined them and it became what
we have now.
IFQ:
Cool. What would you tell a young director just starting out?
NT: Trust what you got.
IFQ: Sounds like good advice.
NT: I think so.
IFQ:
Nick, thank you.
NT: Thank
you.
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Interview: Nick Taylor
IndieNYC.com 2012
by Steve Rickinson - Senior Editor
Paradise East is a dark comedy about a desperately
dysfunctional lower middle class family fiercely struggling to make
it in the twentieth century. Lucky, not your typical dad, runs a coffee
shop and has a difficult time dealing with the idiosyncrasies of his
two deadbeat sons. Ernie, the oldest, is a wanna-be pimp and street
hustler, forever searching for the perfect angle. Chip, the baby, is
unemployed with a passion for French fries and underage girls. This
is frowned upon by the pious, slightly unorthodox, parish priest who
does his best to interact with the members of his flock, assisting them
at times in ways that may surprise you. He kills them! Turn from
the Serpent, he advises, swim in the Blood of our Savior!
Resist temptation! Sounds like good advice.
We managed to talk with the films writer
and director Nick Taylor about its journey, controversial subject matter
and how it feels more foreign than anything else. Paradise East
is NOW PLAYING at New York Citys Cinema Village.
Can you tell me a little about where the idea
for the film came from? Why did you feel the need to make this particular
film? It came from a couple of ideas.
When I was young I witnessed a priest beat up a young man who was supposedly
doing muggings in my neighborhood in New Jersey.
I watched the priest rough this guy up quite
intensely and that stayed with me for a long time. From there it includes
all the interesting people I have met and encountered over the years,
some of whom I was very close to. This is not the first film Ive
written or directed, but this was one I was very passionate about.
So this film is not about any particular criticism
of religion or a religious upbringing?
No. I was not raised very religious and its certainly not a criticism
of religion. It is a movie about desperation. It is a movie about loss
of space. Its a movie about the loss of hope and identity. Were
dealing with some deeply troubled people in the film. Ive known
quite a few in my life and its interesting and makes for a slightly
different style of movie. When you see it, its quite different
from most of the indie stuff that you have seen. I can promise you that.
From what Ive
read about the film, to mainstream audiences (or audiences in general),
the film deals with some very controversial subject matter. Did you
find funding to be difficult when presenting potential investors with
such material? ABSOLUTELY! There were some people who were
very concerned about the topics. There were people who expressed serious
interest in the film, then after having an agent look over the script
they became very concerned. It certainly isnt a mainstream movie.
I had no interest in making a mainstream movie. Its something
that people will see as dark or troubling. It was definitely touchy
and its not everyones cup of tea and we knew that going
in.
Was there ever an instance
where someone would be open to helping the film in some capacity, while
asking you to compromise something in your original vision? There
was an instance where a happier ending was asked for, but I just couldnt
make that compromise. All of a sudden the person in question bowed out
after that decision had been made. Fortunately we were still in a position
to get this thing made though.?Despite this, the greatest pleasure I
had while making this movie was the actors. The actors came in and just
kicked ass and people who see the movie, even if some people are shocked
by it, can recognize the actors as being really great.
A lot of the films accolades are going
toward its acting. What were you looking for from the actors when
casting their specific roles? Then, while on set what kind of directorial
techniques did you use in order to get the actors to a place that
they needed to be? What I was always
looking for was actors who didnt look like actors
and actors who didnt act like actors. I wanted this
movie to be the fly on the wall. I wanted it to be so truly, harshly
and brutally believable and truthful that I looked at a lot of people,
especially for the roles that were just horrendous to cast. Once I had
them on set I would have to bring them down to earth, saying that this
isnt a movie, or play but its real life. We have to play
it as close to real life as we can. This is something I always look
for. When you watch the movie, you dont think youre looking
at actors and you dont even think youre watching a movie.
You think youre peering through someones dirty window.?One
story, which is interesting, is when we were having trouble finding
our key location. I wanted to find a location instead of building a
set. I wanted a small, dingy apartment and I looked at many places.
The few that I had interest in were just too nice. Finally, I went into
one decrepit building and I talked to the super who told me of a unit
in the building on the top floor where the tenant had just passed away.
She was a heavy duty alcoholic and the place was a mess. I mean, 20,
30 years worth of grime. I saw it and I said, This is where were
going to shoot the movie. My point is that the locations have
a personality as well.
What about the humor element of the script?
Ive read descriptions as being a combination between South
Park and Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia. What
was your mindset behind adding this element of humor into such a gritty
script? Its like going to Starbucks,
the subject is so strong that you cant just add a little bit of
cream or a little bit of sugar since youre in for such a rough
ride. I always like to add comedy into whatever I do. Its almost
like the 3 Stooges/Hitchcock feel with dark stuff and at the same time,
a little theatre of the ridiculous. I started in theatre and Ive
always been a fan of it. This movie is the most ridiculous youll
ever see, but it also has its very dark areas.
Purely from an aesthetic standpoint, can you
describe your directorial approach to the film? We
shot almost the whole movie handheld on a RED with prime lenses. Again,
Im always concerned that while we wanted the cinematography to
make an impact, we didnt want it to look too pretty or stagey.
There are so many films, in my opinion, that look a little too theatrical
and polished. We really went the extra mile to make this film look beautifully
disgusting and hideous. We were very careful with the lighting and how
we used the camera so we could get the sense of claustrophobia, neuroses,
and rage. We used the camera like a jackhammer so we could dig into
the guts and soul of each character.
Finally, with the international scope of the
festivals the film has been a part of. With this have you been able
to gauge American response to the film in relation to the foreign response?
This definitely has a very foreign
feel. It certainly is more of a European movie. I always thought of
it as being a guys movie as well, however I have been pleasantly
surprised by the female reaction, especially given the straight out
of the gas station style subject matter.
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